they are at the big board today, along with buffalo bill safety, and heart mates ambassador damar hamlin doing the honors. >> fantastic hero everyone remembers that moment, that heart-stopping moment on the field, and everyone now remembers. there he is. >> great to see him at the nasdaq golden matrix, a gaming company. bunch of headlines about marketing spend and chargeoffs and some weakness, they say, at small and medium-size business >> i know. and by the way, steve scurrier would admit that if you want to take a long-term view, what matters there is the incredible funnel they have. they don't have to pay as much the acquisition costs are very low, because they advertise on credit karma they advertise where they have to be. american express has been ridiculed and -- if you go back to -- >> you're showing your age >> if you go back two quarters ago, there was a belief that in october, steve said that, look, spending was a little bit lower on restaurants the stock dropped to $160. and then it's been a straight shot, why? because the quarter and the quarters were really good. this was a